More Pedigrees

Just what you wanted, right? More equine heritage, coming at you.

I have thoroughly enjoyed looking into all of the pedigrees people have shared, picking up on many familiar names and few that gave me a vague sense of déjà vu.

For my first Thoroughbred, my mom sent a check to the Jockey Club for a tattoo look up, race record, and pedigree. In return, we received a dot matrix print out of Red’s pedigree and race record. Other than it started with an ‘S’ I  don’t remember Red’s tattoo and I haven’t tracked down the print out yet …

On to my second Thoroughbred, Leo. He still doesn’t have his own post on this blog, but he has shown up here and there. I bought him as a 4-year-old that had started over fences. My trainer at the time read his tattoo and included it in the bill of sale, which I still have. In 1998, the Internet was not so robust with crap as it is today, so I don’t remember looking up Leo’s tattoo until much later. The information I had on the horse at the time of sale was the tattoo, a complimentary review from an accomplished rider who had ridden the horse at a trainer’s barn in Houston, where my trainer found the horse, and that he was Canadian. (And obviously I had tried the horse and the pre-purchase exam was unremarkable.)

Once I did look him up by the tattoo number I had, the facts and my experience mostly lined up, except for the horse’s color, listed as bay or dark brown in Equibase, although the horse I owned was quite obviously a true black with a little rust in his tail thanks to the Texas sun.

So with that, Leo apparently raced in only 8 starts as Royal Manila. A black foal is still within the realm of possibility for a chestnut sire and dark brown/bay mare, so perhaps this is him?

But the pedigree research isn’t quite over yet. Let’s get away, for a moment, from the Jockey Club and General Stud Book we all know and love. I have another pedigree for you. Does anyone have familiarity with Quarter Horse pedigrees? I’m not at all versed in the breed.

Anchor’s pedigree matters little to me, as the horse proved his worth to me countless times over, and to say he was worth his weight in gold would be an understatement. But I have never looked into his or any QH pedigree unless maybe an Appendix, so I am curious to learn.

He did, at the very least, get the “easy keeper” memo. (And it’s not as though we actually totally get away from Thoroughbreds 😉)

15 thoughts on “More Pedigrees

  1. Your QH has lots of foundation bloodlines. Skip Bardoo goes back to Three Bars, who was the Thoroughbred sire of the infamous Doc Bar. Skip Boat goes back to Skipper W. Skipper W was a typical QH for his time; bulldog built and very athletic. He didn’t have progeny who specialized so you see his lines in all kinds of QHs today. Barrel horses, show horses, ranch horses etc. Raider’s Streak is very foundation bred going back to the Hancock line. Foundation QH ppl today often seek out Hancock lines. I could keep going, but the theme with this horse is Foundation bloodlines. When I was a kid and showed in the AQHA shows I turned up my nose at the Foundation people with the thought that they just couldn’t keep up with the fancier modern horses. As an adult I can very much appreciate why those lines are so prized; those horses are very athletic. I’d happily take a Foundation mare (with an uphill build) and breed her to a TB stallion like Sea Accounts today with hopes of getting a little bit typey, but very athletic horse. I have a grandson of Doc Bar that I showed to the World Championship level in Reining when he was 4, 5, 6 years old. He’s 23 now and I foxhunted on him for the past 6 years. I wish I had evented him because he was so brave and athletic and loves to jump. He couldn’t have done jumps that were all that big, but he was so much fun to ride. I did get to take him out on the cross country course at Texas Rose in Lindale for a photo shoot and we had an absolute blast!

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    • I also found that one of his lines goes back to Plaudit, too, and it was like looking at Anchor’s doppelganger. More than one cowboy offered wads of cash or huge personal checks for Anchor over the years, and I am only just now getting it! I also now wonder if this is why he wasn’t gelded until very late? He was fantastic in English tack, but unwilling to work at all in a western saddle.

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      • Yes! He goes back to Plaudit 2 or 3 times. Was he bred/raised in Texas? I wonder if he has/had foals on the ground? I’m entertained he did well in English tack, but didn’t like western. I’d work cattle with my dad and always tried to take my English saddle when we took my QH jumping horse and it nearly gave my dad a coronary. There was just no way I could be useful with that stupid saddle with no horn! But my horse was awful to ride western and therefore we weren’t helpful with the western saddle so the English saddle won out and my dad was horribly embarrassed in front of his friends.

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        • He was foaled in Texas and went through 4 or 5 owners by the age of THREE. We bought him after his owners gave up on trying to get him to go western. He was gelded at 3 and entered training at the barn where I rode (English) and we bought him shortly after that. He loved to jump! I don’t think he ever bred, though. I honestly don’t know!

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  2. I am bloodline illiterate, regardless of breed. My current horse is an Appendix QH. The other horse I owned as an adult was TB. I owned another TB as a teen and my very first horse was an Arabian. Bloodlines are interesting to me, it’s just not something I have any knowledge of.

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  3. I love AQHA bloodlines, but don’t have anything to add that hasn’t been covered! My mom showed Skipper W horses growing up though and loved them – it’s a great athletic line. There’s a lot to be said for the modern lines that have refined the breed for certain disciplines, but I love a good mix of some foundation; it seems to really add some soundness, brains and longevity the more type-y lines sometimes lose.

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    • Just kidding, I totally do have more to add. Shasta Scooter was a Wiescamp bred horse, who bred a handful of my mom’s show horses growing up. Hank Wiescamp was a phenomenal breeder, incredibly well known and respected in the QH world – a quick google search will tell you all.

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